Your only a part of the machine orlee.I get it from all sides here in washington
state.And I'm glad you checked into your partys way of fixing an
election..Republicans do not have this feature in their primary..This will
explain how it came about
There has been a lot of confusion over delegates and super-delegates. And,
because of the close race between Obama and Clinton, understanding the role of
delegates and super-delegates is going to be more important than in past
elections. However, understanding may be the easy part...Getting over the
seemingly less than democratic process, may prove to be more difficult.
So, lets take a look at the super-delegates...
The Super-delegates are party leaders and lawmakers, including all
Democratic members of Congress and former presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill
Clinton, as well as ex-vice president Al Gore.
If no candidate has a lock on the 2,025 delegates needed to secure the
nomination before the party's convention in August, the 796 "super-delegates" would be decisive.
Unlike "pledged" delegates chosen through primaries and caucuses,
super-delegates are free to vote for whomever they chose. Many have already
promised to back one candidate or another, "and most of the others will at some
point before the convention," said Michael Tanner, a political analyst with the
Cato Institute.
Who are the super delegates? The following information is from the 2008
Democratic Convention Watch.
List of super delegates that have already endorsed a candidate.
List of super delegates that have NOT yet endorsed a candidate.
Why did the party adopt the 'super delegate' system?
Super-delegates were supposed to supply some Establishment stability to the
nominating process.
Before 1972, party elders, such as Chicago Mayor Richard Daley and Charlie
Buckley, the boss of The Bronx who helped John Kennedy clinch the 1960
nomination, wielded inordinate power.
But in early 1970's, the party's rules were reformed to open the process to grass-roots activists, women, and ethnic minorities.
Sen. George McGovern, the leading anti-Vietnam war liberal, won the 1972
nomination. McGovern turned out to be a disaster as a presidential candidate,
winning only one state and the District of Columbia.
So without reverting to the days of party bosses like Buckley, the Democrats
decided to guarantee that elected officials would have a bigger voice in the
nomination.
Most people don't like the idea of our next presidential nominee being decided
by super delegates. And, if it comes down to that, I think there is going to be
some real trouble in the Democratic party. Personally, as a disenfranchised
voter in Florida, I would be furious if super delegates decided the nominee, but
Florida delegates did even get counted.
So now we all know how superdelegates came into being,and why.
Thursday, February 28, 2008
From: ARLENE R BUTCHER
>
> lol am i a democrat smear machine.. lol.. look you dont need to stand alone..
> you can sit down and take the stuff i smear its ok.. cause i have a long list
of
> things to smear lol.. god love your grandma for putting up with so many
> republicans and comeing out of it ok..
> i bet everynight the darling woman went to sleep and prayed you all would get
> smart.. lol. wheres your sister now.. did she ever date sammy? cause he wasn't
> so bad.. he had a good job at least..
>
> hey muddy clue here... if pete lived and was a citizen here.. he would be
a
> democrat.. havent ya noticed he is leaning toward my side in it all and he
never
> liked bush either.. but thats over.. with .. we only have a few months and
> numerous days till the big day when that moving van is heading for the white
> house.. and a big change will be taking place.. new blood new.. workers .. new
> menus on the white house dinner schedule. heck isn't it the first lady or
first
> man who chooses what we all eat .. when i go to dinner there lol..
>
> oh by the way i do disagree with the superdelegates.. hell i would like to
> become one though .. imagine the perks to really getting the good stuff from
> both sides to choose right.. so ok tell me this.. does the republicans have
> superdelegates or is that limited to the ones who actualy go out and find
votes
> or does mccain have a few superdelegates up his ass (i mean sleeve)...?
>
>
> back to ya mudd
>
> lol am i a democrat smear machine.. lol.. look you dont need to stand alone..
> you can sit down and take the stuff i smear its ok.. cause i have a long list
of
> things to smear lol.. god love your grandma for putting up with so many
> republicans and comeing out of it ok..
> i bet everynight the darling woman went to sleep and prayed you all would get
> smart.. lol. wheres your sister now.. did she ever date sammy? cause he wasn't
> so bad.. he had a good job at least..
>
> hey muddy clue here... if pete lived and was a citizen here.. he would be
a
> democrat.. havent ya noticed he is leaning toward my side in it all and he
never
> liked bush either.. but thats over.. with .. we only have a few months and
> numerous days till the big day when that moving van is heading for the white
> house.. and a big change will be taking place.. new blood new.. workers .. new
> menus on the white house dinner schedule. heck isn't it the first lady or
first
> man who chooses what we all eat .. when i go to dinner there lol..
>
> oh by the way i do disagree with the superdelegates.. hell i would like to
> become one though .. imagine the perks to really getting the good stuff from
> both sides to choose right.. so ok tell me this.. does the republicans have
> superdelegates or is that limited to the ones who actualy go out and find
votes
> or does mccain have a few superdelegates up his ass (i mean sleeve)...?
>
>
> back to ya mudd
celebrity Death Match
I think the country is well aware of Ohios plight with that debate and your
emails.Ohio is not alone I'm afraid.I saw it coming with raising intrest rates
at the same time oil went to 80 bucks a barrel.
Now as far as being an undercover newscaster,funny you should mention
that..My longtime roomate jimmy is a democratic lead guitar player,and I play
the republican bass player/piano faker sometimes we make up songs to the news
shows (such as the ever popular 'pump an Iraqi) and end up making ourselves
laugh so hard we cant play anymore.All songs are politically incorrect,which
adds to their charm.I've been trying to get him to get with the program and
start makin ourselves a name on utube or cable radio as the Mudd and Jimmy
show,just for a laugh.But he would rather seek out homeless musicans and play
with them.Maybe someday he will go for it with me.Preferably during an election
cycle,as we seem to grind off each other well with our opposing views.By the
way,he's a Dennis Kucinich fan,which I am constantly teasing him about.I have a letter from George Bush hanging next to Jimmys door
with a picture of the white house I taped on it to make it look more
presidential.He still hasnt
commented on it,but he did like the 2008 calender I gave him for christmas of
george and Laura Bush closeups.
And as far as my ability to pick out the bad parts of any political
speech,thank my dad for this trait,as he was instrumental in grooming this
ability.
As far as why dont I like supporting the poor,we already do,I just have a
problem when I go work on section 8 housing projects and every one of them low
income people drive better cars than me and mine
do..Mercedes,bmw's,jags..etc..Because we pay their other bills,they get to buy
luxury vehicles.All I ask is somebody checks where the money goes someday.Which
wont happen cause thats more expensive than just giving it away,cause then you
got 2 groups stealing the money.The checkers and the checkees.
And lastly but not least,why dont I look for the good in the candidates?I'm still looking..The last I checked,the last 2 republican candidates have
run a totally muddslinging free campaign ,which I applaud.They even like and
admire each other,which I find a little discomforting,but not as scary as Mc
cains wifes eyes..Have you seen those light gray firey eyes?Pretty scary if you
ask me..I'm hoping it was the camera angle and glare..otherwize she might be the
antichrist..Mike,sue,hes your Senator,is she a good women,or a drill sargent
just waiting behind closed doors with a whip?Her "I'm proud of my America"
comment seemed like a challange to obamas wife..Is celebrity death match still
playing?Thats the fight I wanna see,maybe in the octagon on ultimate fighting.
emails.Ohio is not alone I'm afraid.I saw it coming with raising intrest rates
at the same time oil went to 80 bucks a barrel.
Now as far as being an undercover newscaster,funny you should mention
that..My longtime roomate jimmy is a democratic lead guitar player,and I play
the republican bass player/piano faker sometimes we make up songs to the news
shows (such as the ever popular 'pump an Iraqi) and end up making ourselves
laugh so hard we cant play anymore.All songs are politically incorrect,which
adds to their charm.I've been trying to get him to get with the program and
start makin ourselves a name on utube or cable radio as the Mudd and Jimmy
show,just for a laugh.But he would rather seek out homeless musicans and play
with them.Maybe someday he will go for it with me.Preferably during an election
cycle,as we seem to grind off each other well with our opposing views.By the
way,he's a Dennis Kucinich fan,which I am constantly teasing him about.I have a letter from George Bush hanging next to Jimmys door
with a picture of the white house I taped on it to make it look more
presidential.He still hasnt
commented on it,but he did like the 2008 calender I gave him for christmas of
george and Laura Bush closeups.
And as far as my ability to pick out the bad parts of any political
speech,thank my dad for this trait,as he was instrumental in grooming this
ability.
As far as why dont I like supporting the poor,we already do,I just have a
problem when I go work on section 8 housing projects and every one of them low
income people drive better cars than me and mine
do..Mercedes,bmw's,jags..etc..Because we pay their other bills,they get to buy
luxury vehicles.All I ask is somebody checks where the money goes someday.Which
wont happen cause thats more expensive than just giving it away,cause then you
got 2 groups stealing the money.The checkers and the checkees.
And lastly but not least,why dont I look for the good in the candidates?I'm still looking..The last I checked,the last 2 republican candidates have
run a totally muddslinging free campaign ,which I applaud.They even like and
admire each other,which I find a little discomforting,but not as scary as Mc
cains wifes eyes..Have you seen those light gray firey eyes?Pretty scary if you
ask me..I'm hoping it was the camera angle and glare..otherwize she might be the
antichrist..Mike,sue,hes your Senator,is she a good women,or a drill sargent
just waiting behind closed doors with a whip?Her "I'm proud of my America"
comment seemed like a challange to obamas wife..Is celebrity death match still
playing?Thats the fight I wanna see,maybe in the octagon on ultimate fighting.
Your hired
By orlee:
ok your hired.. to be the next undercover news caster for election day.. lol.. actually i am glad you watched that.. myself i am sure you want a oppionion right lol... it was not a good debate.. nothing we all havn't heard before.. its the same stuff different day.. there was nothing new brought up except that they both want ohio votes.. we do know now that the whole country knows were in trouble in ohio with job losses and no end in sight for our smart young children to have a fighting chance to make a living here.. but besides that i think your good at picking out all the bad parts of any democrat conversation.. can ya just look at the good this might bring.. so what you think were going to have to pay for the poor.. why is that such a issue with you.. because you yourself pertain to be charitable.. any money spent on the poor goes right back into the economy.. its a win win situation for most of us. even in the position of your job.. and i know you wont say so but.. if by chance a grant come through from the governemt in your area alone to find and fix up housing for the people who need help.. you would benefit with job opportunities.. its not always about just food.. there is durable goods every family wether needy or rich might have.. the one thing though that i caught upon was the fact that both candidate hit on that the administration and i wont say you know who.. is a president for the weathy.. he has written tax cuts to help them.. how does that filter down to us.. ? dont take that as a question.. lol.. just that those of you who are middle class.. not many of us left.. were now the pre-poor.. why cant you see that .. that the rich have had the benefits you and i might never have with a hand in the pockets of the politicians and vice vera .. so when you say .. the democrats will do this and that on a negative thought.. why not look for the good these candidates will do.. not the negative..
ok your hired.. to be the next undercover news caster for election day.. lol.. actually i am glad you watched that.. myself i am sure you want a oppionion right lol... it was not a good debate.. nothing we all havn't heard before.. its the same stuff different day.. there was nothing new brought up except that they both want ohio votes.. we do know now that the whole country knows were in trouble in ohio with job losses and no end in sight for our smart young children to have a fighting chance to make a living here.. but besides that i think your good at picking out all the bad parts of any democrat conversation.. can ya just look at the good this might bring.. so what you think were going to have to pay for the poor.. why is that such a issue with you.. because you yourself pertain to be charitable.. any money spent on the poor goes right back into the economy.. its a win win situation for most of us. even in the position of your job.. and i know you wont say so but.. if by chance a grant come through from the governemt in your area alone to find and fix up housing for the people who need help.. you would benefit with job opportunities.. its not always about just food.. there is durable goods every family wether needy or rich might have.. the one thing though that i caught upon was the fact that both candidate hit on that the administration and i wont say you know who.. is a president for the weathy.. he has written tax cuts to help them.. how does that filter down to us.. ? dont take that as a question.. lol.. just that those of you who are middle class.. not many of us left.. were now the pre-poor.. why cant you see that .. that the rich have had the benefits you and i might never have with a hand in the pockets of the politicians and vice vera .. so when you say .. the democrats will do this and that on a negative thought.. why not look for the good these candidates will do.. not the negative..
Im glad
I'm glad you are getting something out of orlee and my debates Pete.Thats
exzactly why I am writing all of these emails..To get others involved and so
people outside the usa learn a bit more of our system,which certinly isnt
perfict,and needs refining with our help.The system was set up before the
current media blitz,and has fallen into manipulators hands.It can be fixed
though.I do get kinda tired of standing alone against the democratic smear
machine..To be honest my dad started teasing his step-mother when I was growing
up about being a democrat,and they went round and round every election cycle.So
thank you to orlee for reminding me of those good times with dad and
grandma..and allowing the debates to continue.Ok,so they wernt such good times
with mom telling dad to change the subject and the tv!Then my sister would start
in teasing grandma that she would like to date sammy davis jr. and grandmas
mouth would drop open and then she would just shut up and grumble..Yes,this is
the
same one who hated reagon.So during the 80's it was real testy..And I learned to hold my own against the
democrats.
exzactly why I am writing all of these emails..To get others involved and so
people outside the usa learn a bit more of our system,which certinly isnt
perfict,and needs refining with our help.The system was set up before the
current media blitz,and has fallen into manipulators hands.It can be fixed
though.I do get kinda tired of standing alone against the democratic smear
machine..To be honest my dad started teasing his step-mother when I was growing
up about being a democrat,and they went round and round every election cycle.So
thank you to orlee for reminding me of those good times with dad and
grandma..and allowing the debates to continue.Ok,so they wernt such good times
with mom telling dad to change the subject and the tv!Then my sister would start
in teasing grandma that she would like to date sammy davis jr. and grandmas
mouth would drop open and then she would just shut up and grumble..Yes,this is
the
same one who hated reagon.So during the 80's it was real testy..And I learned to hold my own against the
democrats.
My take on the dems debate
ok..heres my take from the debate..
Heathcare...obama wins..hillary would mandate we all buy insurance we cant
afford.
2.Hillary lies about nafta..she was all for it when bill clinton signed it into
law.now she claims she never liked it and it needs fixed//unfortunatly it cant
be fixed.They both are lieing on this issue..
3.jobs for ohio..Obama wants to invest,invest,invest..sounds like more spending
a comin..Clinton says shes gonna invest,invest,invest..sounds like more trash
talk.Both want to spend more of your money.
4.Clinton claims she went to china and stood up for human rights..I still see no
change in china so whatever she did didnt work..
5.Clinton claims obama wants to bomb pakistan..Clinton doesnt think this is
right..To be honest,we already are killing al quida member inside pakistan with
Predator remote control airplanes.
6.Iraq..Obama says we need to get out now no matter what.Clinton says we need to
leave,but keep a presence in the area but have an orderly withdrawl,beginning in
60 days,removing 1-2 bragades per month.
7.Afghanistan..Obama wants more troops in afghanstan.Clinton wouldnt shut up as
they went to commerical.Looks desperate.
8.they ran the wrong film clip..msnbc looks as hapless as usual.
9.More help for poor people.Hang onto your wallets again..more govt handouts
comin if eather of these people get in.
10.Obama says hillary cant claim her husbands experience as hers..I agree.she
cant pick and choose the good stuff she was for..the bad stuff she was
against..typical polititions positions.
11.Keeping their word.obama apparntly is flip flopping on public financing
money.All of em do this..no mystery here.
12.Clintons tax returns. they wont release it .sounds fishy to me..she claims
she will release the returns..I doubt it.maybe after the election she wont have
it ready before the primary unfortunatly.
13.lous farakaam.. obama denys any affiliation with this black man.will not
denounce his support though.tim ruppert is trying to get obama to say he will
support isreal..obama says he wont tolerate anti-semitisim.Clinton slaps obama with not denouncing
farakaan.
14.obamas voting record is more liberal than ted kennedys.National Review rated
obama this.
15.putins successor . Clinton claims putin is installing his successor.shes
probably right. Both will kiss his ass if they get in office..
16.Clinton gives concession speech..At least thats what it sounds like..History
making campaign..bla bla bla..Now the attack dogs are talking about hillary..her
attack dogs have turned on her,trying to make her look bad.god I hate msnbc news
people.
ok how'd I do?
Heathcare...obama wins..hillary would mandate we all buy insurance we cant
afford.
2.Hillary lies about nafta..she was all for it when bill clinton signed it into
law.now she claims she never liked it and it needs fixed//unfortunatly it cant
be fixed.They both are lieing on this issue..
3.jobs for ohio..Obama wants to invest,invest,invest..sounds like more spending
a comin..Clinton says shes gonna invest,invest,invest..sounds like more trash
talk.Both want to spend more of your money.
4.Clinton claims she went to china and stood up for human rights..I still see no
change in china so whatever she did didnt work..
5.Clinton claims obama wants to bomb pakistan..Clinton doesnt think this is
right..To be honest,we already are killing al quida member inside pakistan with
Predator remote control airplanes.
6.Iraq..Obama says we need to get out now no matter what.Clinton says we need to
leave,but keep a presence in the area but have an orderly withdrawl,beginning in
60 days,removing 1-2 bragades per month.
7.Afghanistan..Obama wants more troops in afghanstan.Clinton wouldnt shut up as
they went to commerical.Looks desperate.
8.they ran the wrong film clip..msnbc looks as hapless as usual.
9.More help for poor people.Hang onto your wallets again..more govt handouts
comin if eather of these people get in.
10.Obama says hillary cant claim her husbands experience as hers..I agree.she
cant pick and choose the good stuff she was for..the bad stuff she was
against..typical polititions positions.
11.Keeping their word.obama apparntly is flip flopping on public financing
money.All of em do this..no mystery here.
12.Clintons tax returns. they wont release it .sounds fishy to me..she claims
she will release the returns..I doubt it.maybe after the election she wont have
it ready before the primary unfortunatly.
13.lous farakaam.. obama denys any affiliation with this black man.will not
denounce his support though.tim ruppert is trying to get obama to say he will
support isreal..obama says he wont tolerate anti-semitisim.Clinton slaps obama with not denouncing
farakaan.
14.obamas voting record is more liberal than ted kennedys.National Review rated
obama this.
15.putins successor . Clinton claims putin is installing his successor.shes
probably right. Both will kiss his ass if they get in office..
16.Clinton gives concession speech..At least thats what it sounds like..History
making campaign..bla bla bla..Now the attack dogs are talking about hillary..her
attack dogs have turned on her,trying to make her look bad.god I hate msnbc news
people.
ok how'd I do?
I will watch it
I will watch it..what channel is it on?And you should go hear John Mc cain
speak.Hes somewhere in a burger stand near you kissing babies.I'm glad I finally
got an answer out of you..You sheep make it hard to get a straight answer,I mean
you democrats..See,when I hear you say it doesnt matter who gets in as long as
they are democrats,that worries me.Says "follow the heard no matter who lies to
who" to me.Maybe I'm wrong..I hope to hell I am..And about that florida
thing..wasnt that 2000 election stuff?Hell gore is even over it..Now that he has
his nobel peace prize he has quit whinin so much..Now heres the truth about that
election..Bush stole it..yup..he did cheat better than Clinton that time.His
daddy learned those "go after the the big states delegates only' trick the hard
way.And Carl Rove refined it.Here's more "truths" as I see em..Your party is
still upset with the egg on its face from the clinton lieing to congress about
monica lewinski.Spent the last 8 years trying to pass
that along to gw bush with the "bush lied" sticker campain and everything.Maybe it worked,maybe it
didnt..All I know it gave me a target to aim for up here with my
bumper..lol...Now I gotta get the "vote for monica lewinskis ex boyfriends
wife" bumper sticker..Hell I might even vote for obama.
speak.Hes somewhere in a burger stand near you kissing babies.I'm glad I finally
got an answer out of you..You sheep make it hard to get a straight answer,I mean
you democrats..See,when I hear you say it doesnt matter who gets in as long as
they are democrats,that worries me.Says "follow the heard no matter who lies to
who" to me.Maybe I'm wrong..I hope to hell I am..And about that florida
thing..wasnt that 2000 election stuff?Hell gore is even over it..Now that he has
his nobel peace prize he has quit whinin so much..Now heres the truth about that
election..Bush stole it..yup..he did cheat better than Clinton that time.His
daddy learned those "go after the the big states delegates only' trick the hard
way.And Carl Rove refined it.Here's more "truths" as I see em..Your party is
still upset with the egg on its face from the clinton lieing to congress about
monica lewinski.Spent the last 8 years trying to pass
that along to gw bush with the "bush lied" sticker campain and everything.Maybe it worked,maybe it
didnt..All I know it gave me a target to aim for up here with my
bumper..lol...Now I gotta get the "vote for monica lewinskis ex boyfriends
wife" bumper sticker..Hell I might even vote for obama.
Tonights debate
by orlee:
> i dont doubt your right you keep up on things.. it wont matter who gets the
> nomination of my party. they are both qualified to be president.. as far as
some
> men doing the picking thats ok by me to.. i didnt set up the rules. but they
> must of thought them out in great detail.. lol.. your forgeting your party
> declared victory before the total votes were even counted and how about
florida
> with is messed up system which put georgie in office.. before ohio was even
> counted.. its like you said .. we should have a super anyday where we all vote
> at once.. to pick our candidates..
>
> then all this stuff wouldnt happen to get everyone all worked up..
>
> by the way watch our debate tonight on t v.. it comes from cleveland ohio at
the
> cleveland state campus.. it should be very interesting and since your so open
> minded about this election lol.. you should want to hear my sides debate.. lol
> we will have a quiz on it tomorrow .
> i dont doubt your right you keep up on things.. it wont matter who gets the
> nomination of my party. they are both qualified to be president.. as far as
some
> men doing the picking thats ok by me to.. i didnt set up the rules. but they
> must of thought them out in great detail.. lol.. your forgeting your party
> declared victory before the total votes were even counted and how about
florida
> with is messed up system which put georgie in office.. before ohio was even
> counted.. its like you said .. we should have a super anyday where we all vote
> at once.. to pick our candidates..
>
> then all this stuff wouldnt happen to get everyone all worked up..
>
> by the way watch our debate tonight on t v.. it comes from cleveland ohio at
the
> cleveland state campus.. it should be very interesting and since your so open
> minded about this election lol.. you should want to hear my sides debate.. lol
> we will have a quiz on it tomorrow .
superdelegates
ok,I guess you just dont understand the question..But first lets not compare
FLYING AND GAMBLING COSTS to the price of a ticket to a football game..They are
not 1000 dollars unless you buy them from a scalper on ebay or somewhere
else.The price of a ticket is still under 100 bucks,except a playoff game..So I
still dispute your vacation theory..That said,for the fourth time,How do you
feel when obama gets more delegates,has more of the popular vote,and yet still
might not get the partys nod for their candidate because of an old rule put in
place by fast talking men in back rooms?This rule could let these old croonies
decide who the candidate will be regardless of the voters.As if they know better
who should get the nomination.This act could be considered treason in my mind.If
I was a democrat I wouldnt put up with this crap..This is all I'm asking.how do
you feel about this situation?Not who your voting for.
If you still have no idea what I'm talking about,I suggest you pay a little more
attention to the details of whats going on in your party.Do a search for SUPERDELEGATES and you
should be able to find some info on the rules for superdelegates.Thats what I
would like answered.Waiting for the next novel..Mudd out.
FLYING AND GAMBLING COSTS to the price of a ticket to a football game..They are
not 1000 dollars unless you buy them from a scalper on ebay or somewhere
else.The price of a ticket is still under 100 bucks,except a playoff game..So I
still dispute your vacation theory..That said,for the fourth time,How do you
feel when obama gets more delegates,has more of the popular vote,and yet still
might not get the partys nod for their candidate because of an old rule put in
place by fast talking men in back rooms?This rule could let these old croonies
decide who the candidate will be regardless of the voters.As if they know better
who should get the nomination.This act could be considered treason in my mind.If
I was a democrat I wouldnt put up with this crap..This is all I'm asking.how do
you feel about this situation?Not who your voting for.
If you still have no idea what I'm talking about,I suggest you pay a little more
attention to the details of whats going on in your party.Do a search for SUPERDELEGATES and you
should be able to find some info on the rules for superdelegates.Thats what I
would like answered.Waiting for the next novel..Mudd out.
Unsure of the question
By orlee:
> i guess i am unsure of the questions.. if your asking me am i voting for
> hillary.. i am not going to sidestep it.. i will vote for hillary.. i always
> said i wouldnt vote for her ..i thought for the longest she is a caluclating
> bitch.. but if that is what it takes to make it in the world of political
humor
> and and honor.. to be elected as president to the united states . then i hope
> she a bigger bitch than i thought.. lol ..lets face it .. the presidental ring
> has new and strong players this time.. its a man oriented world .. my
candidates
> are both qualified.. both have law degrees and have put in their time to learn
> and do a great job if elected.. not saying that mc cain wont do a good job as
> president.. I was impressed with him before and thought he was a good man..
and
> still do.. i just fear he will stay on the same war path as bush and not
change
> much .for the middle class.. whom ever is elected will inherit the worst
> position and will be critized .. but guess what.. i wont be the one to do that
> lol.. i bet you find that funny.. i never actually critized a president till
lil
> georgie got into office. i have always been political but not to the point as
i
> am passionate as i am now.. there is a big stake in this election. and
hopefully
> were all on a win win situation..
>
> our country needs alot.. hell they should invite me to dinner with the next
> president.maybe you could come too... actually i might get kicked out of
dinner
> with bush .. you know protocal and all .. when i would stand up and say.. hey
> asshole what was you thinking.. lol i am sure those sunglassed guards would
boot
> me.. can you picture me at dinner with bush.. maybe i could go visit barbara
> bush and her cohorts.. lol wouldnt that be fun just a bunch of old ladies
> sitting back comparing notes on how well our children do.. imagine that
> conversation.. lol.. well ok lets not get carried away.. its a bad visual..
lol
> ..
>
> i asked once along time ago in a email..
>
> if you have one person you would want to sit down with and talk to one more
> time.. who would it be.?. if you could fill a table with people who are
> important to you to have a conversation with.. who would it be.?. i know my
> answer.. and guess what george bush wouldnt be at my table.
>
> whos at your tables..??
> its a tough question.. at my age.. i know the importance in my life. and i
know
> that all the bull shit that comes with life doesn't mean that much.. i will
tell
> you this .. the smartest man i ever met.. would be at the head of my table..
my
> dad.. now tell whos at your table..
>
> oh and by the way.. last year i checked on tickets to go see pittsburg steelers
> and clevelan browns.. they were upward of 1000 dollars for them.. if you could
> find some hacker to part with any.. to me thats a vacation.. i can fly to my
> sisters for 2 of us.. about 600 dollars.. i rent a car its about 30 to 40
> dollars a day.. i think most we ever paid with our coupon from the
entertainment
> book was like 250 dollars.. so now were up to 850 dollars.. food and gas for
the
> week well i will free load off them lol. not really wouldnt be that much for
me
> and willy. we might hit a casino hotel in reno driveing there.. and they will
> probably let us stay for free.alot comp. us for free food.. being gamblers
and
> all. when i gamble i normally allow 150 dollars a day.. now mind you that
doesnt
> count for my losses. i cant say i ever ran out .. ok i did a few times.. but
on
> a whole i am pretty lucky.i have taken vacations where the cost was out of
> pocket 2000 dollars .. maybe a little more.. but not much and had a hell of a
> good time.. and we stayed 10 days in california..
> so yes the cost of going to one football game could be a vacation for me..
>
> i am telling you i am the queen of cheap.. but i have to have alot of cheap
> thing..
>
>
> and by the way.. i saw on the news in california they now have marijauna
vending
> machines.. apparently you put in a perscription for pot and it dispenses it
like
> a bottle of soda.. aint this a wonderful world.. when you getting those in
> washington.. ??
> i guess i am unsure of the questions.. if your asking me am i voting for
> hillary.. i am not going to sidestep it.. i will vote for hillary.. i always
> said i wouldnt vote for her ..i thought for the longest she is a caluclating
> bitch.. but if that is what it takes to make it in the world of political
humor
> and and honor.. to be elected as president to the united states . then i hope
> she a bigger bitch than i thought.. lol ..lets face it .. the presidental ring
> has new and strong players this time.. its a man oriented world .. my
candidates
> are both qualified.. both have law degrees and have put in their time to learn
> and do a great job if elected.. not saying that mc cain wont do a good job as
> president.. I was impressed with him before and thought he was a good man..
and
> still do.. i just fear he will stay on the same war path as bush and not
change
> much .for the middle class.. whom ever is elected will inherit the worst
> position and will be critized .. but guess what.. i wont be the one to do that
> lol.. i bet you find that funny.. i never actually critized a president till
lil
> georgie got into office. i have always been political but not to the point as
i
> am passionate as i am now.. there is a big stake in this election. and
hopefully
> were all on a win win situation..
>
> our country needs alot.. hell they should invite me to dinner with the next
> president.maybe you could come too... actually i might get kicked out of
dinner
> with bush .. you know protocal and all .. when i would stand up and say.. hey
> asshole what was you thinking.. lol i am sure those sunglassed guards would
boot
> me.. can you picture me at dinner with bush.. maybe i could go visit barbara
> bush and her cohorts.. lol wouldnt that be fun just a bunch of old ladies
> sitting back comparing notes on how well our children do.. imagine that
> conversation.. lol.. well ok lets not get carried away.. its a bad visual..
lol
> ..
>
> i asked once along time ago in a email..
>
> if you have one person you would want to sit down with and talk to one more
> time.. who would it be.?. if you could fill a table with people who are
> important to you to have a conversation with.. who would it be.?. i know my
> answer.. and guess what george bush wouldnt be at my table.
>
> whos at your tables..??
> its a tough question.. at my age.. i know the importance in my life. and i
know
> that all the bull shit that comes with life doesn't mean that much.. i will
tell
> you this .. the smartest man i ever met.. would be at the head of my table..
my
> dad.. now tell whos at your table..
>
> oh and by the way.. last year i checked on tickets to go see pittsburg steelers
> and clevelan browns.. they were upward of 1000 dollars for them.. if you could
> find some hacker to part with any.. to me thats a vacation.. i can fly to my
> sisters for 2 of us.. about 600 dollars.. i rent a car its about 30 to 40
> dollars a day.. i think most we ever paid with our coupon from the
entertainment
> book was like 250 dollars.. so now were up to 850 dollars.. food and gas for
the
> week well i will free load off them lol. not really wouldnt be that much for
me
> and willy. we might hit a casino hotel in reno driveing there.. and they will
> probably let us stay for free.alot comp. us for free food.. being gamblers
and
> all. when i gamble i normally allow 150 dollars a day.. now mind you that
doesnt
> count for my losses. i cant say i ever ran out .. ok i did a few times.. but
on
> a whole i am pretty lucky.i have taken vacations where the cost was out of
> pocket 2000 dollars .. maybe a little more.. but not much and had a hell of a
> good time.. and we stayed 10 days in california..
> so yes the cost of going to one football game could be a vacation for me..
>
> i am telling you i am the queen of cheap.. but i have to have alot of cheap
> thing..
>
>
> and by the way.. i saw on the news in california they now have marijauna
vending
> machines.. apparently you put in a perscription for pot and it dispenses it
like
> a bottle of soda.. aint this a wonderful world.. when you getting those in
> washington.. ??
You dont Piss me off
And you dont piss me off as much as you think..I just like facts being bantered
about,not bullshit.Again,now you've changed your story from going to a football
game will cost you a vacation for a family,(check below if brain needs
refreshed)to tickets for a season will cost a vacation and superbowl tickets are
18,000 (ha,good luck selling those,most go for 2-5,000 bucks.)I guess if this
makes your point,go ahead and change..I know this is a womans right..And I have
an offer for the seattle thunderbirds aa hockey team 10 tickets for 50
bucks.Thats not bad,and you get to hang out with funny canadians who have
nothing better to do on a saturday night than watch hockey. Nice job ignoring my
question again on the super delegates issue with obama and hillary..I really
want to know what you think..about hillary if she goes to super delegates to
secure the democratic nomination..Dont dodge it..dont fill the page with babble
that doesnt pertain to dick..Answer me please!
about,not bullshit.Again,now you've changed your story from going to a football
game will cost you a vacation for a family,(check below if brain needs
refreshed)to tickets for a season will cost a vacation and superbowl tickets are
18,000 (ha,good luck selling those,most go for 2-5,000 bucks.)I guess if this
makes your point,go ahead and change..I know this is a womans right..And I have
an offer for the seattle thunderbirds aa hockey team 10 tickets for 50
bucks.Thats not bad,and you get to hang out with funny canadians who have
nothing better to do on a saturday night than watch hockey. Nice job ignoring my
question again on the super delegates issue with obama and hillary..I really
want to know what you think..about hillary if she goes to super delegates to
secure the democratic nomination..Dont dodge it..dont fill the page with babble
that doesnt pertain to dick..Answer me please!
From: ARLENE R BUTCHER <
>
> checking on line for nfl superbowl tickets.. now mind you this is not your
> average football game as you know. its not unreasonable to pay up to 18
thousand
> dollars plus for 2 tickets..that i think includes your hotel stay within 10
> miles of the stadium.. now tell me again how cheap you can get tickets.. lets
> check regular games.. the baseball which is the cheapest for tickets in your
> area is from 35 to 120 dollars each ticket.. i am sure like here you can find
> discounted tickets. i cant really find regular season tickets for the football
> yet i think its too early for them to go on sale . i did see on ebay.. go
figure
> someone is selling half of their season tickets to the raiders. 2 tickets for
5
> games $999.00 thats 200 dollars a game. are you sure you can get tickets
really
> as cheap as you think? lol maybe your team is no good thats why tickets are so
> available and cheap.. lol.. utto actually i found a site has seattle seahawk
> season tickets for 1000 dollars each.. which includes sitting on the upper
> level.. and hey there is still some prices higher than that depending on where
> your going to sit.up to $2400 per season ticket.. so if 2 of you want to go..
> could cost a vacation amount.. if you want to take a family to a game i am
sure
> you will have pure sticker shock..
>
> here i can tell you willy and i go to atleast 3 or 4 baseball games downtown.
we
> have the akron aeros.. which is a AAA team the players go to the Indians or
> other professional teams.. its a great time and prices for us to go is under
10
> dollars a game each.. sometimes we end up with free tickets.. and the beer and
> food it cheaper too..
>
> but i am telling you i would maybe go to a football game but i cant see
sitting
> in the cold and paying a fortune for the tickets ..
>
>
> lol i figure i better change the color for this next stuff.. about the taxes.
> any speech george bush gave was to announce his tax breaks . not my idea. his..
> in his speech to the nation his he said and i am not just telling you this for
> the fun of it.. he wants to put inyo place a law so that anyone getting in
> office cant stop his tax cuts.he wants them permanent.. his rich buddies will
> love him for that. . ofcourse .we all know there so benfitting them poor
folk..
> lol thats a joke..
>
> as far as our money going to the poor for food.. you found the cheaters..
there
> is cheaters who take the money given to them and find a way to profit from
it..
> trust and believe there is truely poor out there who need that food and help..
> and i have no difficulty in taking care of the elderly and the poor.. your gf.
> son who bought that food card.. if its such a problem he should tell anyone
> trying to give him a deal on the card that you dont like when he does that and
> he has to stop.. any money that goes into the public from our government finds
> and filters its way back into the economy.. its a win win situation as far as i
> can tell..
> the best way to get people off aid from the government is through education..
if
> you give a man a fish he will eat for one day.. if you teach him to fish he
will
> eat forever..
>
> boy i would hope by the way.. cheney gets the boot too. so that will end his
> being the boss over anything...someone call rent a truck and make sure they
all
> have rides line up ..
>
> how much curiously is cigerettes in your state.? when we go to new york
> ciggerettes at the indian reservation are half of what the cost is here.. but
in
> ohio.there over 40 dollars a carton of 10 ... if you go outside your state and
> purchase anything cheaper.. on your tax form they want you to confess and pay
> them the tax dollars they missed out on.. i had a friend was ordering
cigeretts
> on line.. somehow he was told on by the seller or something. the first year
they
> called him on the tax.. was over 800 dollars.. they charged him 15 dollars a
> carton. in taxes..
>
> so now what.. do we complain about..
>
> you must see me as a whiner.. i see me as a strong american woman who is
> knowledgeable lol and it pisses ya off. i do know i am voting for obama or
> clinton.. your party can handle themselves. one of those losers will make it
to
> the ballot.. the next thing is learning who everyones running mate is..
>
> oh by the way.. here is a thought.. if you are getting ready to take a
airplane
> someplace and perchance the week or month before there was a plane wreck and
> some part was overlooked.. that caused the wreck. every plane now that you
might
> board will be looked at piece by piece. to make it safe as the day it was
made.
> right.. so here is the deal.. if per chance hillary should be voted in.. as
> madame president. guess what.. she is the first.. she will be put on a stool
for
> all the world to see. she will want to set the standards high for us. she will
> make sure in her history readings she was known for something other than filling
> a void for the seat. she is going to be strong and willing to take on a job
that
> maybe just maybe will be wrote about in the history books as one hell of a
great
> president. .. on that note i am hopefull. but either way both my candidates
will
> be first.. both are strong both have things they want to do to make our
country
> better. back to mc cain.. what did he say he would do for us? geesh i cant
think
> of a thing..
>
> checking on line for nfl superbowl tickets.. now mind you this is not your
> average football game as you know. its not unreasonable to pay up to 18
thousand
> dollars plus for 2 tickets..that i think includes your hotel stay within 10
> miles of the stadium.. now tell me again how cheap you can get tickets.. lets
> check regular games.. the baseball which is the cheapest for tickets in your
> area is from 35 to 120 dollars each ticket.. i am sure like here you can find
> discounted tickets. i cant really find regular season tickets for the football
> yet i think its too early for them to go on sale . i did see on ebay.. go
figure
> someone is selling half of their season tickets to the raiders. 2 tickets for
5
> games $999.00 thats 200 dollars a game. are you sure you can get tickets
really
> as cheap as you think? lol maybe your team is no good thats why tickets are so
> available and cheap.. lol.. utto actually i found a site has seattle seahawk
> season tickets for 1000 dollars each.. which includes sitting on the upper
> level.. and hey there is still some prices higher than that depending on where
> your going to sit.up to $2400 per season ticket.. so if 2 of you want to go..
> could cost a vacation amount.. if you want to take a family to a game i am
sure
> you will have pure sticker shock..
>
> here i can tell you willy and i go to atleast 3 or 4 baseball games downtown.
we
> have the akron aeros.. which is a AAA team the players go to the Indians or
> other professional teams.. its a great time and prices for us to go is under
10
> dollars a game each.. sometimes we end up with free tickets.. and the beer and
> food it cheaper too..
>
> but i am telling you i would maybe go to a football game but i cant see
sitting
> in the cold and paying a fortune for the tickets ..
>
>
> lol i figure i better change the color for this next stuff.. about the taxes.
> any speech george bush gave was to announce his tax breaks . not my idea. his..
> in his speech to the nation his he said and i am not just telling you this for
> the fun of it.. he wants to put inyo place a law so that anyone getting in
> office cant stop his tax cuts.he wants them permanent.. his rich buddies will
> love him for that. . ofcourse .we all know there so benfitting them poor
folk..
> lol thats a joke..
>
> as far as our money going to the poor for food.. you found the cheaters..
there
> is cheaters who take the money given to them and find a way to profit from
it..
> trust and believe there is truely poor out there who need that food and help..
> and i have no difficulty in taking care of the elderly and the poor.. your gf.
> son who bought that food card.. if its such a problem he should tell anyone
> trying to give him a deal on the card that you dont like when he does that and
> he has to stop.. any money that goes into the public from our government finds
> and filters its way back into the economy.. its a win win situation as far as i
> can tell..
> the best way to get people off aid from the government is through education..
if
> you give a man a fish he will eat for one day.. if you teach him to fish he
will
> eat forever..
>
> boy i would hope by the way.. cheney gets the boot too. so that will end his
> being the boss over anything...someone call rent a truck and make sure they
all
> have rides line up ..
>
> how much curiously is cigerettes in your state.? when we go to new york
> ciggerettes at the indian reservation are half of what the cost is here.. but
in
> ohio.there over 40 dollars a carton of 10 ... if you go outside your state and
> purchase anything cheaper.. on your tax form they want you to confess and pay
> them the tax dollars they missed out on.. i had a friend was ordering
cigeretts
> on line.. somehow he was told on by the seller or something. the first year
they
> called him on the tax.. was over 800 dollars.. they charged him 15 dollars a
> carton. in taxes..
>
> so now what.. do we complain about..
>
> you must see me as a whiner.. i see me as a strong american woman who is
> knowledgeable lol and it pisses ya off. i do know i am voting for obama or
> clinton.. your party can handle themselves. one of those losers will make it
to
> the ballot.. the next thing is learning who everyones running mate is..
>
> oh by the way.. here is a thought.. if you are getting ready to take a
airplane
> someplace and perchance the week or month before there was a plane wreck and
> some part was overlooked.. that caused the wreck. every plane now that you
might
> board will be looked at piece by piece. to make it safe as the day it was
made.
> right.. so here is the deal.. if per chance hillary should be voted in.. as
> madame president. guess what.. she is the first.. she will be put on a stool
for
> all the world to see. she will want to set the standards high for us. she will
> make sure in her history readings she was known for something other than filling
> a void for the seat. she is going to be strong and willing to take on a job
that
> maybe just maybe will be wrote about in the history books as one hell of a
great
> president. .. on that note i am hopefull. but either way both my candidates
will
> be first.. both are strong both have things they want to do to make our
country
> better. back to mc cain.. what did he say he would do for us? geesh i cant
think
> of a thing..
Enduring Questions
ok..lets answer those enduring questions for you this morning..First question:
1.What the hell has mc cain promised he will do if elected?I think he has
promised to be president.Other than that,do you really expect these guys to
accomplish any of what they promise in the run for president??The truth is,none
of what they promise will be acted on..If you vote because of what they
promise,I doubt if you will get what you want.And as far as following in the
footsteps of his now boss...Who do you think his now boss is?He is a senator
from Arizona,so I guess his boss would be the people of Arizona.and when He's in
Washington,I guess you could consider Dick Cheiny his boss as he is the head of
the senate.George is not his boss so quit trying to smear bush again.I am glad
you finally started to look at other candidates though.I cant wait till you pass
the democratic nonsense and start smearing the current candidates.Should be any
day now we should see it start from your party.I tried to get a debate going
about the crooks trying to steal obamas thunder from your part
y,but that was ignored,I assume because you want hillary to win,but I might be
wrong on that.I still await a discourse on that subject..I still have copys of
that email if you need a refresher.
1.What the hell has mc cain promised he will do if elected?I think he has
promised to be president.Other than that,do you really expect these guys to
accomplish any of what they promise in the run for president??The truth is,none
of what they promise will be acted on..If you vote because of what they
promise,I doubt if you will get what you want.And as far as following in the
footsteps of his now boss...Who do you think his now boss is?He is a senator
from Arizona,so I guess his boss would be the people of Arizona.and when He's in
Washington,I guess you could consider Dick Cheiny his boss as he is the head of
the senate.George is not his boss so quit trying to smear bush again.I am glad
you finally started to look at other candidates though.I cant wait till you pass
the democratic nonsense and start smearing the current candidates.Should be any
day now we should see it start from your party.I tried to get a debate going
about the crooks trying to steal obamas thunder from your part
y,but that was ignored,I assume because you want hillary to win,but I might be
wrong on that.I still await a discourse on that subject..I still have copys of
that email if you need a refresher.
Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Everyone struggles
muddy everyone struggles.. it doesnt matter how much money you have.. everyone wastes money.. from the very poor to the very rich.. if you gave a poor family .. i saw a show on t v.. a man who was homeless found a case.. was placed for a very poor person to find.. it had 100 grand inside.. a man pushing a shopping cart found it.. he first bought a car for a man who was in charge of where he would sell cans he collected each day.. he then bought himself a truck and flew to where his family was .. only to find when the money ran low so did the family love.. he didnt invest any .. was very generous with all his other homeless friends.he got married.. but lost that too when she found out there was no money.. . buying a bike for one and giveing money for food and alchol for most.. in the end.. he didnt plan the money he owned a new truck with no money for gas.. all his family had turned away again .. and he was homeless once more..
we all make our own destiny.. each one of us.. but there is forces which will not make it easy.. but then again .. struggle is good lf you remember where you came from and where your going .in the end .. we all get old.. we all lose our great looks and end up old .. but hopefully the dance was great..life can be good if you let it.. .. we all have those sad stories about someone near us who had a bad end.. hell i can tell you alot of those.. but to dwell is not a good idea.. i try to only remember the great times.. and guess what.. i took care of my parents and my brothers in their times of being sick and dieing.. and it was the hardest time of my life to lose them all. but i wouldnt of gave up any of the time.. i had to spend to take care of them..
we all make our own destiny.. each one of us.. but there is forces which will not make it easy.. but then again .. struggle is good lf you remember where you came from and where your going .in the end .. we all get old.. we all lose our great looks and end up old .. but hopefully the dance was great..life can be good if you let it.. .. we all have those sad stories about someone near us who had a bad end.. hell i can tell you alot of those.. but to dwell is not a good idea.. i try to only remember the great times.. and guess what.. i took care of my parents and my brothers in their times of being sick and dieing.. and it was the hardest time of my life to lose them all. but i wouldnt of gave up any of the time.. i had to spend to take care of them..
We do sling mudd
by orlee :
yea he is right about one thing.. we do sling mudd .. pardon the pun pretty good.. as for my stickin my had down your pants lol .. if its anything like putting my hand in your pocket.. i didnt find anything there either.. just a pocket nothing else.. not even a bump..lol.. so to compare that note lol.. it aint happening.. if that was a form of appology all is forgiven.. truth is as truth does.. we all see things differently.. its like memories everyone has some .. if 2 share the same memory its going to be different and little details will be added and forgotten.. its the same with politics.. and cleaning your house..when someone comes to your house.. they don't notice what you do .. the notice what you dont do.. never mind you worked hard to fix things up.. but hey then i have a saying.. if you arent paying my bills you have no oppionion on my life other than the amount i let you have.. that and free advice is what you pay for it nothing.. so inlight of that.. we can all say lets get on with the election and my party winning...
yea he is right about one thing.. we do sling mudd .. pardon the pun pretty good.. as for my stickin my had down your pants lol .. if its anything like putting my hand in your pocket.. i didnt find anything there either.. just a pocket nothing else.. not even a bump..lol.. so to compare that note lol.. it aint happening.. if that was a form of appology all is forgiven.. truth is as truth does.. we all see things differently.. its like memories everyone has some .. if 2 share the same memory its going to be different and little details will be added and forgotten.. its the same with politics.. and cleaning your house..when someone comes to your house.. they don't notice what you do .. the notice what you dont do.. never mind you worked hard to fix things up.. but hey then i have a saying.. if you arent paying my bills you have no oppionion on my life other than the amount i let you have.. that and free advice is what you pay for it nothing.. so inlight of that.. we can all say lets get on with the election and my party winning...
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Its election time and all is well with my democratic opponents.I love sparing with them. What follows is a week of world wide shared email some of us from a chat room keep in touch.These are the people I started this blog for 3 years ago.Hence the name "Those crazy god dam internet people"
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